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 Post subject: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:58 am 
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Bug tracker issue for steam achievements

Steam Achievements are being added to Original War. Some may have noticed that there is currently 1 Achievement on the system (Which no one can get yet as the current version doesn't support Steam Achievements).

So what achievements would you like to see Original War have? Currently there is "To the Past" which is achieved when you step into the EON in the American Campaign.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:33 pm 
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There are ofc the obvious ones like "complete the American campaign" and "gain all medals on hard difficulty". In the more entertaining end what about something like "tame at least one apeman in every mission (after am05)" ("Me and my Buddy"). Or extensions of objectives you usually get medals from, like in am06 you could get an achievement for gathering a hell lot more crates than necessary. Not very concrete suggestions I know, I'm just writing my thoughts :)

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:44 am 
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General:
- Complete Am/Ru campaign on easy/medium/hard [6 in total]
- Complete Am/Ru campaign with all medals (e/m/h) [6 in total]

American
- Merciful (Spare Kurt)
- Employer [am] (employ the mercenaries in 12th mission)
- Legion sympathizer [am] (make Legion join your forces in 15th mission)
- Madman (attack your men in first missions)
- Radioactive [am] (drop siberite bomb in 15th mission)
- Patriot [am] (stay with Americans)
- Pacifist [am] (join the Alliance)
- Mediator (make Lisa and Joan betray Americans) - btw. It may be a bug - we could choose Lisa and Joan but if Joan is present in your squad (green), Lisa won't go with us and we'll loose the medal. If we go after Lisa first and then take Joan - everything is ok.

Russian
- Sniffing commie (hand over Heike to UPF forces)
- Independent commie (Let Heike go with Kurt)
- Employer [ru] (Let the Legion help you in 10th mission)
- Legion sympathizer [ru] (hire the legionaries in 14th mission)
- Problem solved - kill Platonov in 2nd mission (like in MGS series ^^)
- Radioactive [ru] (drop siberite bomb in 15th mission)
- Patriot [ru] (stay with Americans)
- Pacifist [ru] (join the Alliance)

And maybe some MP achievements? If it's possible to do.

Give me a call, if you need some custom achievements icons (not artworks). I'll gladly try to do some.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:08 pm 
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*Applause* :D

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:05 pm 
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Won't list campaign/medals since they're the obvious ones but here's some ideas;

General:

Planet of the Apes (have more Apemen in your service than your people)
Comrades (complete the campaigns without losing a single person)
Purple Heart (lose more than 50 people)
Oil tycoon (extract over 50,000 barrels of oil in total) would be accumulative over time played, if this isn't possible then make it 10,000 in a single game.



American:

Cold feet (don't enter EON) - perhaps make it a secret achievement?
Sanctions (prevent the Russians building their second base in AM4)
Capitalist (collect over a 1000 crates in AM6)
Adversary (kill Gorky)


Russian:

Perestroika (build the Russian main base and hold bountiful supplies in RU8) general Russian achievement so it'll be unlocked by the time you finish the mission.
Purge (stay with Platonov) - again make it a secret achievement?
Cadre (successfully complete Tsarytsns(sp?) quiz and become a true Communist)
From Russia with love (kill Macmillan)

edit: removed a couple

By the way, is it possible to add Steam Workshop for OW?


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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
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For mission specific ones i would need McBenn's help.

Zhen wrote:
By the way, is it possible to add Steam Workshop for OW?

There is not a great amount of documentation on implementing the Steam Workshop(The example project you get with the SDK doesn't have workshop code). It also would require a tool made to allow people to submit mods. So at this stage its not a priority.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
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stucuk wrote:
For mission specific ones i would need McBenn's help.

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Zhen wrote:
Perestroika (build the Russian main base and hold bountiful supplies in RU8) general Russian achievement so it'll be unlocked by the time you finish the mission.

I don't quite understand this one.

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Yeah just re-read up on it and I'm wrong so that can be ignored, it was just that Popov said something during the beginning of RU8 that reminded of it. I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to post-Stalin USSR. :P

By the way I noticed a potential issue regarding the achievement of not losing a single person in the American campaign. Due to the randomness of the arrivals locations in AM6, it may not be possible to prevent their deaths, especially when they spawn inside the Russian base. Another issue is AM8, the three dying soldiers are impossible to save so that may cause a problem, although you could just add them to cyan's team.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:51 pm 
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Hm ya didn't think of such situations. Guess there are more cases than just those you mentioned. We'll have to take that into consideration.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:19 pm 
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Antitheus wrote:
- Mediator (make Lisa and Joan betray Americans) - btw. It may be a bug - we could choose Lisa and Joan but if Joan is present in your squad (green), Lisa won't go with us and we'll loose the medal. If we go after Lisa first and then take Joan - everything is ok.

Judging from the code that's the idea. I guess it's because Lisa also has a thing for JMM :P

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:02 am 
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But after the medals are granted, you would see "You hadn't contact all of your people" ("Nie skontaktowałeś się ze wszystkimi" - although I've got English version of OW i hand't play it, so I don't know how this medal is named). This may be somehow misleading.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
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That's a bug for sure. Fixed.

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Antitheus wrote:
- Problem solved - kill Platonov in 2nd mission (like in MGS series ^^)

How do you do that? When you start shooting at Platonov you almost immediately lose.

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- Sniffing commie (hand over Heike to UPF forces)
- Independent commie (Let Heike go with Kurt)

Can you hand Heike over to UPF? It looks like you can only hand over Kurt and the other arab guy building the barracks for you.
May I suggest these instead:
- Sniffing commie (hand over the Arabs building mortarmen barracks for you to UPF)
- Gamesmanship (let the Arab build the mortarmen barracks but don't hand over Heike to them afterwards)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:46 pm 
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- Yup, attacking or killing Platonov (or anybody in this mission) would result in losing the game. But it's worth it's time. This may be a bonus achievement.
btw: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=575184492578228&set=gm.658184794241471&type=1&theate "You can't just kill a political commissar. Next time, send him over the front-lines. You lost!". The best "you lose" in the game. We may "force" the players into seeing this kind of stuff. OW is quite developed, so imho it could show some unknown areas of the game. E.g. seeing Sevi Gorki in Am vehicles in 15th Am mission or something.
- You're right. Handing over (or not) Kurt and his men - not Heike.

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