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 Post subject: Ranked matches on beta patches.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:29 pm 
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Would it be possible to allow play ranked matches on betas? It would help to beta test settings, which are set in ranked games.


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 Post subject: Re: Ranked matches on beta patches.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:11 pm 
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There should be nothing stopping it from Original War's side. If there is anything blocking it then its from Clanbase's side.

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 Post subject: Re: Ranked matches on beta patches.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:43 am 
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It has been blocked due to 1.12.0 being "fatally flawed" with spectator bug, or something other immensely retarded like that. 1.11.* has zillion more bugs than 1.12, yet nobody blocks that. Go figure ;) - now thanks to such bright ideas everyone keeps playing 1.11.0, which is, of course, pristine pure bug-free gameplay experience and nobody dares to upgrade to beta-quality bugged-to-hell-and-back 1.12.0.
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 Post subject: Re: Ranked matches on beta patches.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:39 pm 
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1.11.0 has more bugs then 1.12. 1.12 had the spectators fixed last patch, 1.11.0 still has the spectator bug(The spectator bug has been around since it was introduced in 1.08, the problem was with the maps).

There is not anything better about 1.11.0. 1.12 does not have any bugs introduced to the game that we know of which are not in 1.11.0. Most of the bugs that have been reported in recent years have been in the game since 1.02 but were never found by anyone(Especially when it comes to exploits).

I doubt 1.12 has been blocked because its "fatally flawed" as Radzio (Especily Radzio) and Yuri know that it doesn't introduce any known bugs.

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 Post subject: Re: Ranked matches on beta patches.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:28 pm 
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Well, that's the reason I heard. Anyway, what's the point of playing bugged 1.11, if everyone knows 1.12 is all-around better on every angle?


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 Post subject: Re: Ranked matches on beta patches.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:49 pm 
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Well, that's the reason I heard. Anyway, what's the point of playing bugged 1.11, if everyone knows 1.12 is all-around better on every angle?

Its always been that way. People always think Beta means "Buggy". Until its released alot won't touch it with a barge poll. What they don't realise is that Beta versions generally fix more bugs than they create (Assuming any are added).

But that shouldn't have anything to do with Clanbase blocking 1.12.* . Its proberly that Clanbase is set to only allow Original War's which send it 1.11.* versions when they try to contact it and doesn't include code to accept higher version numbers than the minimum version that it allows. Clanbase checks the version to make sure that the Original War which tries to connect to it isn't an Old version.

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 Post subject: Re: Ranked matches on beta patches.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:22 pm 
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Maybe it's time to drop 'beta' all together then, if community isn't smart enough to figure things out? ;) - besides, what's the point - you can do 1.12.0, 1.12.1 etc., fixing bugs people will discover. It's not like Original War is mission critical server software that will destroy the world should it work improperly :P


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 Post subject: Re: Ranked matches on beta patches.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:35 pm 
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The point of beta's were because at the very start the patches were buggy. Most patches had major bugs which screwed up the game for people who didn't speak english. So i started closed beta tests. The concept was so that patches were not released which had major problems. From then on major bugs were not released to the public. But alot of people do not bother to take part, especially people who do multiplayer. What you find is that anything that is added/modified for modders is generally bug free, but multiplayer stuff generally has more bugs. This has historically been because people never bothered to test the multiplayer aspects of the game of beta patches and as a result only when a patch was released did i ever know what problems multiplayer had.

So i started Open Beta tests instead of closed beta tests, so that people could join in more easily. I also relaxed the rules so that people could distribute beta patches to other people(But i kept the rule about not uploading it to websites).

I can't get rid of the beta testing. Patches need to be tested. Over the years beta tests have stopped major bugs from being in the released versions. When people actually do test OW what you find is that far more stuff gets fixed even quicker. At the start of the year Radzio/Yuri managed to get alot more people to test. What happened is that quite a few major exploits were crushed as a result. Without testing patches will be more buggy.

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 Post subject: Re: Ranked matches on beta patches.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:06 am 
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It hasn't been banned on purpose. We are investigating the case.


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 Post subject: Re: Ranked matches on beta patches.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:06 pm 
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We found what was wrong. It should work now.

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