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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:14 am 
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I've forgot about the most important achievement:
  • Install and play the Arabian Campaign

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:15 pm 
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Firstly I would like to thank you for keeping OWAR alive.

And I got ideas for some achievements:

"There must be a better way"
- Complete Alliance campaign on any difficulty
- PS: Haven't found ending achievement for completing the alliance part of campaign.

"Peace through superior firepower"
- Use Siberite bomb on all 3 Nations in last (15th) mission in Russian campaign.
- And as picture could be, for example Nuclear mushroom over a fading peace sign on background.

"Victory at any cost"
- Win the American campaign despite being nuked by Russians in last mission.
- Picture of a graveyard with VICTORY written over it.

"Say NO to imperialistic science!"
- Kill Hugh Stevens in 5th Russian mission
- Picture: Red crossed circle over a icon of Dual Laser.

"I don't need more matryoshkas!"
- Kill the Russian mechanic in 2nd American mission.
- Picture: Red crossed circle over a icon of Behemot.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:47 pm 
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Antitheus wrote:
I've forgot about the most important achievement: Install and play the Arabian Campaign

Haha, you wish :P

* "There must be a better way"
You're actually right. There's just an achievement for choosing Alliance. But completing Alliance campaign equals completing either the American or Russian (depending on from which side you joined Alliance) as it is now. That together with the achievement for joining Alliance, is that enough?

* "Peace through superior firepower"
Sure

* "Victory at any cost"
My memory might fail me here but don't you lose immediately no matter what after the Russians have fired their bomb?

* "Say NO to imperialistic science!"
Sure

* "I don't need more matryoshkas!"
Sure

I hope it's ok if we rename some of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:52 pm 
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Shame with the Alliance ending, but if it is count as part of bigger campaign probably little can be done about it.
Yeah, go ahead and rename them as you see fit. I know that someone could get offended by these names.

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* "Victory at any cost"
My memory might fail me here but don't you lose immediately no matter what after the Russians have fired their bomb?


And about the Siberite bomb I am not sure either, I will test it.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 4:23 pm 
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McBenn wrote:
* "Victory at any cost"
My memory might fail me here but don't you lose immediately no matter what after the Russians have fired their bomb?


Nope. You can get as many bombs in the face as possible. Even if the legion fires a bomb, you still don't lose.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:38 pm 
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Yep, hejsil is right.
I have just tried to get hit by Siberite bomb :), plus you can easily dodge the Siberite attack, because it is programmed to hit the Machine shop with siberite and rocket annexe, if such building is available.
Back to the name, "Against all odds" sounds better as name for it (or something like that).


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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:27 pm 
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McBenn wrote:
I hope it's ok if we rename some of them.

I already re-named the sniffing commie one.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:05 am 
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We'll add it then. I can see I named it "Rise from the ashes". "Against all odds" is good too.

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I already re-named the sniffing commie one.

Not that it's important to me but could you rename it in the bug tracker also then?

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 11:43 am 
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What do You think about these:
-Capture Peter Roth alive (AM15) - End of pacifism
-Prevent Russians from building Behemoth - When a Behemoth falls down
-Choose your vehicle - Masha
-Rescue Bobby Jordan (AM6) - A Gardener needed
-Control 6 remote vehicles by one mechanic - Trump Mechanic
-Get all Macmillan's/Burlak's skills up to at least level 5 - Halfway hero
-Discover the force of the artifacts - We're not alone
-Destroy russian base using siberite bomb - Chain reaction
-Help Joan deffend Kappa base - True love
-Build at least 15 automatic turrets in your base - Automatic Disaster
-Get too much crates from Platonov's convoys - Stealing the goods
-Kill Omar Shariff - Antiterrorist
-Build 5 siberite bombs on one map - The power of an argument
-Get the results of a siberite bomb without killing any Americans (Alliance) - True Alliance
-Use partial invisibility to escape from enemy - Ninja
-Equip 6 soldiers with Sniper Riffle at once - Sniper Elite
-Equip 6 soldiers with Bazooka at once - Panzer Elite
-Build your first Behemoth - True Monster
-Don't send Frank to spy the Arab's - Best friends
-Kill Paul Khattam when he will betray you - Decision changed
-Neutralize automatic or manual turret by destroying a depot - Checkmate
-Defeat Russians without the help of mayor Sikorski - Hero Macmillan
-Construct Double-Laser and destroy 2 vehicles with it - Green Power
-Rescue your brother and bring him to V.A. Ovsjenko - Bound in blood
-Transport at least 300 siberite crystals to Terminal - Miner good team
-Kill at least 6 innocent animals on one map - Target practise
-Let you people destory 100 or more barrels of oil in Trotsky's base - Waste disposal
-Kill an enemy using a bulldozer - Human pancake


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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 10:24 pm 
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-Capture Peter Roth alive (AM15) - End of pacifism //*
-Prevent Russians from building Behemoth - When a Behemoth falls down //*
-Choose your vehicle - Masha //*
-Rescue Bobby Jordan (AM6) - A Gardener needed //Who? As far as I can see the folks that spawn are random (except Kurt and Joan)
-Control 6 remote vehicles by one mechanic - Trump Mechanic //Nice, will add
-Get all Macmillan's/Burlak's skills up to at least level 5 - Halfway hero //Maybe a better one than 10 in all skills. What do you say people?
-Discover the force of the artifacts - We're not alone //Nice, will add
-Destroy russian base using siberite bomb - Chain reaction //In which mission? Am15?
-Help Joan deffend Kappa base - True love //* but I still kinda like it
-Build at least 15 automatic turrets in your base - Automatic Disaster //Nice haha, will add. Don't know if 15 is a bit too many though
-Get too much crates from Platonov's convoys - Stealing the goods //Ru04 I presume. IIRC you never get punished for stealing too many goods. Am I wrong? What about achivement for stealing every single crate?
-Kill Omar Shariff - Antiterrorist //*
-Build 5 siberite bombs on one map - The power of an argument //Hm not sure. What do you say people?
-Get the results of a siberite bomb without killing any Americans (Alliance) - True Alliance //Nice, will add
-Use partial invisibility to escape from enemy - Ninja //Like the idea but technically it's nigh impossible to implement. What about something like attacking an enemy immediately after going out of stealth?
-Equip 6 soldiers with Sniper Riffle at once - Sniper Elite //6 I don't think is that many. Wouldn't it be better like "equip all persons you have with snipers"?
-Equip 6 soldiers with Bazooka at once - Panzer Elite //Same thing as with sniper
-Build your first Behemoth - True Monster //Nice, will add
-Don't send Frank to spy the Arab's - Best friends //Am11 I assume. Hm not sure about this one
-Kill Paul Khattam when he will betray you - Decision changed //Nice, will add
-Neutralize automatic or manual turret by destroying a depot - Checkmate //Nice, will add
-Defeat Russians without the help of mayor Sikorski - Hero Macmillan //Nice, will add
-Construct Double-Laser and destroy 2 vehicles with it - Green Power //Really like it but it's very difficulty to implement
-Rescue your brother and bring him to V.A. Ovsjenko - Bound in blood //*
-Transport at least 300 siberite crystals to Terminal - Miner good team //Am09. Will add
-Kill at least 6 innocent animals on one map - Target practise //Nice, will add
-Let you people destory 100 or more barrels of oil in Trotsky's base - Waste disposal //Nice, will add
-Kill an enemy using a bulldozer - Human pancake //Nice, will add

* I'm generally not fond of achievements that matches medals in the missions or is something you always do in missions anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:55 am 
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Hmm that's a strange thing with that Bobby Jordan. Whenever I played this game (I fnished up to 10 times) I always had him among with Kurt, Joan, Silvia Creake and one more person I don't remember. But I remember Bobby was always saying something like: "Do you need a garderner?". He was a bald mechanic with a moustache.

-Destroy russian base using siberite bomb - Chain reaction /// - yeah, Am15. Destroy Russians and then everybody die.

-Get all Macmillan's/Burlak's skills up to at least level 5 - Halfway hero /// - It might be 2 achievements, Halfway hero for levels 5 and Hero for levels 10 :)

-Build at least 15 automatic turrets in your base - Automatic Disaster /// - It's not too much, believe me :D I built over 40 automatic turrets once :)

-Build 5 siberite bombs on one map - The power of an argument /// - It's easy doable in Am15, I built over 5 of them and I destroyed a forest around the Alliance base.

-Use partial invisibility to escape from enemy - Ninja /// - I like your concept with attacking an enemy.

-Get too much crates from Platonov's convoys - Stealing the goods /// - I think that mission may be failed, but I'm not sure now.

-Help Joan deffend Kappa base - True love /// - Macmillan doesn't has to help her. So I think it's a nice achievement.

-Equip 6 soldiers with Sniper Rifle at once - Sniper Elite /// - My idea was to put 6 people in one armory and change them to snipers at once. But changing all team is good too :)

-Don't send Frank to spy the Arab's - Best friends /// - Yeah it's Am11 when Frank asks you to leave and you order him to stay.

I'm thinking about new Russian ones. Most of my ideas were from the American campaign.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 9:31 am 
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McBenn wrote:
-Rescue Bobby Jordan (AM6) - A Gardener needed //Who? As far as I can see the folks that spawn are random (except Kurt and Joan)

Their pictures are not random. Idk about their names though.

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-Get all Macmillan's/Burlak's skills up to at least level 5 - Halfway hero //Maybe a better one than 10 in all skills. What do you say people?

Sounds a little easy with 5 in all, but it could just be me, since i allways spend my exp after a mission on the lowest skill. 10 in all is to much though

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-Get too much crates from Platonov's convoys - Stealing the goods //Ru04 I presume. IIRC you never get punished for stealing too many goods. Am I wrong? What about achivement for stealing every single crate?

You will fail the mission, if you steal to many crates.


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:48 am 
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I played today once again, after reinstalling the game. Look - Bobby Jordan again, among with Silvia Creake, Margherite Simpson and George McCarthy.
The same faces and names. [Jordan is not bald though]
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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 12:49 pm 
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Macmillan wrote:
-Get all Macmillan's/Burlak's skills up to at least level 5 - Halfway hero /// - It might be 2 achievements, Halfway hero for levels 5 and Hero for levels 10 :)

Halfway Hero seems legit, however getting level 10 in everything is impossible without cheats. What about "Specialized Unit" for obtaining level 10 in 2 out of 4 skills?

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-Build 5 siberite bombs on one map - The power of an argument /// - It's easy doable in Am15, I built over 5 of them and I destroyed a forest around the Alliance base.

I think that 3 would be definitely enough.


And what about multiplayer achievements?
"Technical break" for at least one minute of pause if it is still possible there,
"It is my property!" for taking back previously occupied building,
"Last man stand" for winning match with last living human
"Torn to pieces" for killing 5 people with mines during one match
"Step by step" for killing 50 people with mines
"Blind shot" for dealing damage to an invisible unit with bazooka
"Force of argument" for elaborating siberit bomb (fastest on the map)
"Argument of force" for using siberit bomb on enemy's base


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 Post subject: Re: Steam Achievements
PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 2:47 pm 
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Ok added a lot of stuff. I went for 7 in all skills for "halfway hero", is that ok? Dunno about the "specialized unit"

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Their pictures are not random. Idk about their names though.

I can tell from the source code that the units are supposed to be random but since OW works the way it does you get the same "random" people each time you play a mission without recompiling the code. But it is true that one of the people says the following

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$ D11b-Sol3-1
- You guys sure need a gardener round here.


Multiplayer achievements. That's a new one, eh stu?

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